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Re: The ARRL, Microsoft, and UNIX

Peter Wright (pwright@srtb0411-b15.resnet.ubc.ca)
Thu, 5 Mar 1998 23:51:28 -0800 (PST)

On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Ted Powell wrote:

> What's wrong with this picture?
>
> Tcl/Tk is available as a self-extracting installer for Windows 95,
> Windows NT, Windows 3.1, Macintosh 68K and PowerPC, and full source is
> also available--all for free--from
> http://sunscript.sun.com/TclTkCore/7.6.html
> http://sunscript.sun.com/TclTkCore/8.0.html (most stable)
> http://sunscript.sun.com/TclTkCore/8.1.html (alpha 2)
>
> Unless these ports have defects that I'm not aware of (I haven't had
> time to try any of them), it seems to me that suggesting that Tcl/Tk
> requires Linux/UNIX was rather bad PR.
>
> I feel that getting people to use software which is able to run
> on multiple platforms is a step in the direction of reducing Bill's
> stranglehold on people's minds, and having them use it on W95 is better
> than having them not use it at all.
>
As far as I know 8.0p2 for windoze has no major bugs. I use it at work
for running an automated test enviroment. After all TCL stands for Tool
Command Language and the RF test equipment is just a set of tools.

But the real reason I went with TCL/TK (And yes it was my decision :) was
that TK is the easiest GUI toolkit to use, that I know about. The
secondary reason I went with it is because of the multi-platform
capabilities. I started with Dos, went to windows 3.11, then to windows
95 and finially to windows NT. I was hoping they'd let me upgrade to BSD
or even better Linux. The only difference in the code would have been the
need to compile the GPIB library for linux. Anyone know the options to
make an .so instead of a .o with gcc? I haven't looked it up yet.

Have you ever noticed that Bill Gates hasn't made much comment about Linux
over the past few years? While he is a bit bias about the quality of
Windoze he's not stupid. Ever since the Linux 2.0 kernel came out I've
seen a vast improvment in the usability of Linux. Not only in the
hardware support in the kernel, but in the installation of RedHat, the
use of X-windows and applications. Wordperfect is available for Linux,
while I haven't used it much for linux, wordperfect was a good match
for MS Word I'm sure it still is. There's also StarOffice, and
Applixware. Any of these applications is a match for the MS Office suite.
And are cheeper too. I got the latest version of ApplixWare for around
$100. The academic priced version of MS office is $327 for the standad
version. And linux gets featured regularly in Byte, PC World and PC Mag.
So why hasn't Bill Gates said/done anything to stop this? Its got to be
eating into his buisness and from what I've heard (I have no proof of
this) more ISPs are using Linux then using Windows NT.

Oh yeah, just for reference I think the main ftp site for tcl is:

ftp://ftp.smli.com/pub/tcl