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Re: Portability of Linux

Turbo Fredriksson
28 Aug 1998 15:34:02 -0700

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Curt Sampson <
> wrote:

> On 28 Aug 1998, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
>
> > Jim Pick have counted 50 distributions (not counting any local dist, ie
> > japanese, german etc)...
>
> Sure, but all the distributions use the same kernel, and there's
> only one pair of people determining what does and doesn't go in a
> Linux kernel. You win here, you lose there, yadayada.

I rather win a little, than not win at all...

> > Which means that there's bound to be something
> > out there that suits everybody (more or less anyway... :). I don't like
> > *BSD, because I don't like the way it's distributed... I really hate it
> > when people tell me how things should be done, and I don't have the time
> > to try to convince the whole *BSD world that we should do this, and put
> > that thing here etc...
>
> Well, you don't have to convince the whole BSD world, you just have
> to convince one of the three BSD distributions. BSD is not as
> monolithic as you make out.

Might be so... I was only on some netbsd list for about two months, to figgure
out how to install it on my HP...

> Also, there's nothing stopping you from
> doing your own BSD distribution, should you not like the ones out
> there.

As I said (numorus times) before... There's not enought time for me...

Say I have to install a unix system on 20 machines (which happens quite
often for me), and I have one day to acomplish this... No way I'm going
to make it if I was going to choose *BSD... I first have to install one
machine, download every single program I need (and some I might not need,
just incase), every single dependent software (libs etc). I then have to
compile, install and configure... When this machine is done, it would have
taken me, what? 2 days? And I still have 19 more machines to go... (Granted,
I could backup this machine, and restore it to the others, but I would still
need to reconfigure each machine, and that takes time...).

> I think that the fact that we don't have a zillion different
> distributions is a testement to the good design of the userland,
> and what is and isn't included in it.

I don't think I ever said that, or did I? I have said that I don't like *BSD
because it just does not suites me (and why it doesn't, I said in the previous
mail)...

> > > Research problem: how many people have the ability, without consulting
> > > with another person, to add a feature to the next Linux kernel
> > > release?
> >
> > Very few, granted... But I'm not interested in that...
>
> That's ok. I'm not asking you to be interested in it. I'm just
> responding to yet another propagation of the myth that BSD is more
> `closed' than Linux.

Oki, sorry... I might not know enough about the _TRUTH_ (tm) here, but as
I said, I'm willing to learn (I may still don't like *BSD, but hey, that's
my right... :)

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